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seems there is a problem with randys two part, if i had a clue about computers i would post it here but bottom line is dowflake is no longer a good way to go...maybe someone with computer smarts could post a link from RC to here....its in the RC chem forums....

http://www.dow.com/calcium/news/August_2005.pdf

Reef Central Online Community - New RANDY's 2 part

OK, I have never used the Randy's dosing technique because I do not feel safe using non-food grade products in the tank, so I cannot speak to build up of bromide in the tank; but

PLEASE read the links above and consider if the risk to return is right for your situation.

I have been checking on research grade Calcium Chloride for about a month. It is not inexpensive (that is why b-Ionic is more than driveway melt)

I will update the thread if I find a source for it that is pure.

Calcium Reactor = no longer need to dose two part. At least not until my sps get huge.

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im a two part junkie, guess its time to consider other methods

I still am convinced that kalkwasser is the best way to go

Just got a bag of Dowflake and was going to give it a try. No reason to let it go to waste. Guess I'll be using it up today on my driveway and sidewalk.

You folks thought it was funny to run to Home depot than by the LFS products. I guess I am grinning a little bit.

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Check the date on the bag, if its prior tp Dec "05" you're all set. There's a good chance that that older bags are still in circulation.

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yeah everyone get to Ag Maybe thell have a huge sale on B-ionic

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What is sad is to see the car crashes this is causing on other sites. Some people found a cost effective way to dose their tanks. Once it is found to be questionable and everyone should revisit their decision processes they start forming a mob to storm the walls.

My torch is lit! Do we need wooden stakes or silver bullets? I'm sure they killed everything in my tank atleast once. Any lawyers out ther ready to plead my case, I deserve restitution! Actually I bought my Dow awhile back and the bags are dated prior to the memo. Not too much left though.

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Peter and Denis the bags I picked up are dated 2 05. We're safe. I'll use up my B-Ionic before I move onto Randys 2 part. Gives me time to find Mag Flake, unless there's an issue in the works for magnisium dosing.

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I have ordered bulk MgCl2 and CaCl2 from Two Part Solution, Discount Calcium and Alkalinity Supplies. With shipping it is still cheaper than buying b-Ionic.

I have a BIG clam and go through this stuff quickly. At least a 1/4 cup per day.

Not too shabby, seems like it'll be a good place for a pooled order in the next few months for a reduced S&H. And they have Reef Chile....wooohoo, good stuff.

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According to Randy, the newer DOW Food Grade has the same problem as the newer DOW Flakes. It seems that Two Part is claiming their stocks are OK. I have sent them an email to confirm.

However, IF their product is OK, it is probably using older stocks from DOW. The question is, "What happends when they run out of that?"

Yep mine says 2-05....I havent had to add calcium yet so I havent tore into the bag!!

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FWIW, for the occasional user that just boosts calicium and alk with it every so often, it really shouldn't make a difference with regular water changes. See what Randy himself has to say about it here.

randys 2 part caution from randy himself - Boston Reefers Society Online Community

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Only got a 30 gallon so have been using SeaChem Advantage Calcium and Reef Builder. You get a lot more because it's dry. Good stuff IMO.

It looks we should have a realiable source for a few years anyway. Here is a response from Two Part:

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